IN IT TO WIN IT

[Jake Seven]

Epic fail.

Obama wins. ;D

Meaning Dylan was wrong, and I was right.

I'll accept the apology now.

[Xpress Success]

Apology for what? Hoping that a shit candidate didn't get the nod? Suckered in for all supporters of the Democrat party. With current political trends, this election will be a case of:

The party that can't lose (Democrats) led by the candidate that can't win (Obama)
vs
The party that can't win (Republicans) led by the candidate that can't lose (McCain)

And to think that in this primary season, Obama didn't even manage to beat Hillary in the popular vote, or the states that will deliver a general election victory (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc). Ha!

Come November, enjoy your fail.

[Mikkey w/ Max Jewel]

HEY! FUCK YOU X!

If we have to fail, I hope you have to fail in the future. I have come to terms with the fact that we are epic fail and all idiots. McCain is the worlds biggest McDouche Bag. Hillary is a fucking annoying bitch like CJ and Barack doesn't know shit. but here's what will happen.

1/2 of the dems will want to vote Obama...the other half won't know what to do. Obama grabs Hillary as VP so now the other half of dems know who to vote for...Obama/Hillary.

This sadly leaves no options for the republicans...like me.

I have to decided on what war I want the USA to fight.

Iraqi war?
Civil War?

Cause if it's McCain (which will never happen) then the Iraq war will continue for ATE LEAST 4 more years.

If it's Obama, he's assassinated and the blacks riot agaisnt the whites.


We are Epic Fail and actually have been ever since the election process was finalized before WWI

[Xpress Success]

McLame is the lesser of two evils. He's a departure from Bush, but still sound enough on the issues to soften the blow. 2012 will be a huge year for America's future direction.

[Anthony Jordan]

I don't like McCain because he doesn't understand the plight of my people.

I don't like Obama because he doesn't understand the plight of my people.

Yes, neither one is concerned about conservatives.

[Mikkey w/ Max Jewel]

No. Obama is the less evil one.

You don't understand the Iraq war if you think McCain is the better of the two. It is costing us BILLIONS, we are neglecting our people so we can help their people.

And the first one to tell me it's about freedom can suck my dick. It's about Oil and to force our policies apon them.

[donzig]

So you want to vote for the lying guy from the racist church, from the party that doesn't trust their members to pick their nominee?

That makes total sense.

You also realize no matter how much bullshit they talk that we are going to be stuck in Iraq? That they just can't wave a magic wand and get us out of there, because the country will collapse into civil war and chaos which is our fault?

Granted, I never would have thought that the sand niggers wouldn't understand freedom.

[donzig]

* Mandatory spending: $1.89 trillion (+6.2%)
o $644 billion - Social Security
o $408 billion - Medicare
o $224 billion - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
o $360 billion - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
o $260 billion - Interest on National Debt
* Discretionary spending: $1.21 trillion (+4.9%)
o $515.4 billion - United States Department of Defense
o $145.2 billion(2008*) - Global War on Terror
o $70.4 billion - Health and Human Services
o $59.2 billion - United States Department of Education
o $44.8 billion - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
o $38.5 billion - US Department of Housing and Urban Development
o $38.3 billion - State and Other International Programs
o $37.6 billion - Department of Homeland Security
o $25.0 billion - Energy
o $20.8 billion - Department of Agriculture
o $20.3 billion - Department of Justice
o $17.6 billion - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
o $12.5 billion - Department of Treasury
o $11.5 billion - Department of Transportation
o $10.6 billion - United States Department of the Interior
o $10.5 billion - United States Department of Labor
o $8.4 billion - Social Security Administration
o $7.1 billion - Environmental Protection Agency
o $6.9 billion - National Science Foundation
o $6.3 billion - Judicial Branch
o $4.7 billion - Legislative Branch
o $4.7 billion - Corps of Engineers
o $0.4 billion - Executive Office of the President
o $0.7 billion - Small Business Administration
o $7.2 billion - Other Agencies
o $39.0 billion(2008*) - Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending

The financial cost of the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War are not part of the defense budget; they are appropriations.

.....Intriguing.

Well, let's see how much money we are wasting in Iraq.

Hrm, 501 billion as of March 2008.

Yes, we are being totally neglected by our government.

I am glad Bill wasn't around during WWII, because learning to speak German doesn't appeal to me. And besides which many of us would be dead.

Granted, I imagine I would look pimp in a Nazi uniform.

[donzig]

Let me fix this budget to the Donzig Style....

* Mandatory spending: $1.89 trillion (+6.2%)
o $260 billion - Interest on National Debt
* Discretionary spending: $1.21 trillion (+4.9%)
o $515.4 billion - United States Department of Defense
o $145.2 billion(2008*) - Global War on Terror
o $59.2 billion - United States Department of Education
o $44.8 billion - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
o $37.6 billion - Department of Homeland Security
o $25.0 billion - Energy
o $20.8 billion - Department of Agriculture
o $20.3 billion - Department of Justice
o $17.6 billion - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
o $12.5 billion - Department of Treasury
o $11.5 billion - Department of Transportation
o $10.6 billion - United States Department of the Interior
o $10.5 billion - United States Department of Labor
o $7.1 billion - Environmental Protection Agency
o $6.9 billion - National Science Foundation
o $6.3 billion - Judicial Branch
o $4.7 billion - Legislative Branch
o $4.7 billion - Corps of Engineers
o $0.4 billion - Executive Office of the President
o $7.2 billion - Other Agencies
o $39.0 billion(2008*) - Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending

The financial cost of the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War are not part of the defense budget; they are appropriations.

Ta-da!

[donzig]

And for you Ron Paul fans (I will highlight deletions in red)....

Estimated receipts for fiscal year 2009 are 2.7 trillion(+7.1%).

* $1.25 trillion - Individual income tax
* $949.4 billion - Social Security and other payroll taxes
* $339.2 billion - Corporate income tax
* $68.9 billion - Excise taxes
* $29.1 billion - Customs duties
* $26.3 billion - Estate and gift taxes
* $47.9 billion - Other

[edit] Total spending

Further information: Government spending

The President's budget for 2009 totals $3.1 trillion. Percentages in parentheses indicate percentage change compared to 2008. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures:

* Mandatory spending: $1.89 trillion (+6.2%)
o $644 billion - Social Security
o $408 billion - Medicare
o $224 billion - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
o $360 billion - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
o $260 billion - Interest on National Debt
* Discretionary spending: $1.21 trillion (+4.9%)
o $515.4 billion - United States Department of Defense
o $145.2 billion(2008*) - Global War on Terror
o $70.4 billion - Health and Human Services
o $59.2 billion - United States Department of Education
o $44.8 billion - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
o $38.5 billion - US Department of Housing and Urban Development
o $38.3 billion - State and Other International Programs
o $37.6 billion - Department of Homeland Security
o $25.0 billion - Energy
o $20.8 billion - Department of Agriculture
o $20.3 billion - Department of Justice
o $17.6 billion - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
o $12.5 billion - Department of Treasury
o $11.5 billion - Department of Transportation
o $10.6 billion - United States Department of the Interior
o $10.5 billion - United States Department of Labor
o $8.4 billion - Social Security Administration
o $7.1 billion - Environmental Protection Agency
o $6.9 billion - National Science Foundation
o $6.3 billion - Judicial Branch
o $4.7 billion - Legislative Branch
o $4.7 billion - Corps of Engineers
o $0.4 billion - Executive Office of the President
o $0.7 billion - Small Business Administration
o $7.2 billion - Other Agencies
o $39.0 billion(2008*) - Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending

[John Gone]

Say what you want about the Nazis' philosiphy, but whoever was in charge of their graphic design knew their shit.

[Mikkey w/ Max Jewel]

I have to agree with Donzig on that one....

he WOULD look pimp in a Nazi uniform

[Mikkey w/ Max Jewel]

FYI, our old people need more money then that....so do the poor people who work 3 jobs just to try and raise their family and pay medical bills......


I'm just gonna stop cause I don't feel like sitting here typing for an hour

[donzig]

Social Security should have been privatized, with people being allowed to manage their own money if they need to.

Also, I think too many lazy fuckers who need to get jobs go and get disability to draw on it. Which means, that people who really do need it don't get it, and have a hard time getting the money they need because of it.

Because Social Security is criminally mismanaged, and mishandled.

[Mikkey w/ Max Jewel]

Jun 5, 2008 9:27:07 GMT -5 @donzig said:

Also, I think too many lazy fuckers who need to get jobs go and get disability to draw on it..

It looks that way to you because you still are in Altoona. That's typical down there. I realized it's not that bad when I moved out of there.

It's all good bro