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Post by Wife Beater on Jun 20, 2008 0:33:57 GMT -5
If that is the case then it sucks for all the people who are lower to middle class people who barely have food to pay their bills with but I wonder how long they actually have to pay it because I am sure they can just take out a loan. pay the luxury tax, then pay back the loan with the winnings.
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:35:11 GMT -5
I didn't know proof was a ridiculous demand.
Pictures and a giant check are one thing.
Actually *having* the money, and being able to spend it, is different.
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:37:48 GMT -5
If that is the case then it sucks for all the people who are lower to middle class people who barely have food to pay their bills with but I wonder how long they actually have to pay it because I am sure they can just take out a loan. pay the luxury tax, then pay back the loan with the winnings. No. If you're low-income, have fun even trying to get a loan. Unless you're 18 and never used a credit card, or bounced a check in your life. I'm speaking of this, from living it my entire life. Luxury taxes come with credit checks. You're not going to say "No, sorry, I don't have the money. WAIT! YES I DO!" People that use that loophole aren't that dumb. Again, just trust me, if theres a luxury tax, these people aren't getting the money. I won a car at the casino a few months ago, and they demand the 8 grand or what ever for the car up front before you can have it. I was extremely pissed. It's casino policy. And a Connecticut policy for anything over 25K. Guess where the WWE is based. I was going crazy, flipping and flailing, I WON A FUCKING CAR! yadda yadda... You don't have a time limit. You either have the thousands upon thousands of dollars, or you don't. It doesn't just magically appear, and if it does, it raises questions.
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Post by John Gone on Jun 20, 2008 0:38:00 GMT -5
There's proof and there's this quote from you:
"Until someone gets all their money, after taxes, and buys a house with it, or a down payment anyway..and a car..and maybe even a college education for their kids..
Then I'll believe you.
Not a minute sooner."
Beater, don't get roped into this argument. No matter what happens he's going to find some reason to say "it's a scam nobody's getting any money." He has sources, after all.
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:41:09 GMT -5
Refresh and read what I added, then delete your post.
Until they have the money to spend, I won't believe it.
I'm not sure how many more times I can say this, with ample examples of why.
Really.
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:44:55 GMT -5
Until someone gets all their money, after taxes, and buys a house with it, or a down payment anyway..and a car..and maybe even a college education for their kids.. Then I'll believe you. Not a minute sooner. Brilliant. You quoted my number one point. Until they get the money, I won't believe anyone won anything and this isn't any more than a giant scam... So..why did you quote me?
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Post by John Gone on Jun 20, 2008 0:45:22 GMT -5
Refresh and read what I added, then delete your post. Until they have the money to spend, I won't believe it. I'm not sure how many more times I can say this, with ample examples of why. Really. You'd be less of an idiot if you provided zero examples. Until someone gets all their money, after taxes, and buys a house with it, or a down payment anyway..and a car..and maybe even a college education for their kids.. Then I'll believe you. Not a minute sooner. Brilliant. You quoted my number one point. Until they get the money, I won't believe anyone won anything and this isn't any more than a giant scam... So..why did you quote me? "Until they do this and this and this, I won't believe any of it" What if the winner is some dope fiend who wants to spend it all on coke and whores? Or a 100 inch LCD TV? Your demands are ridiculous in their specifity.
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:46:48 GMT -5
Right.
I guess I'm an idiot because you're supporting Vince and his million dollar give a way. I'm the idiot who doesn't believe he has any intention of giving this money away, and if you're stupid enough to even believe for a moment he is, read the small print. Because I guarantee there is some.
Again, all this coverage was on NBC. Today Show is NBC. I thought I mentioned this four pages ago? of course they're going to hype up Vince McMahon and his give away, and these contestants who won. Bring them on the show, interview them, huzzah huzzah..
USA's fucking PARENT COMPANY!
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:50:08 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm willing to stand up for something I believe in. Not just say "I disagree, thus, you're wrong"
Examples and facts about tax law, and CT regulation (Since of course you live here Holtz) > Your statements so far. (Which include you quoting AJ about appearing on NBC, and a giant check)
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Post by Jake Seven on Jun 20, 2008 0:52:30 GMT -5
The way I work, is the same as the "WORLD CHAMPS" thread,..
You prove (with of course, actual proof and not pictures of a parent company and giant checks) me wrong, and I'll believe it.
Until then, I refuse to believe anything other than what I say, until, what I say is proven wrong.
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Post by John Gone on Jun 20, 2008 0:57:05 GMT -5
Right. I guess I'm an idiot because you're supporting Vince and his million dollar give a way. I'm the idiot who doesn't believe he has any intention of giving this money away, and if you're stupid enough to even believe for a moment he is, read the small print. Because I guarantee there is some. Again, all this coverage was on NBC. Today Show is NBC. I thought I mentioned this four pages ago? of course they're going to hype up Vince McMahon and his give away, and these contestants who won. Bring them on the show, interview them, huzzah huzzah.. USA's fucking PARENT COMPANY! Ok. I'll give you the brief version of my answer first. Fuck you you miserable presumptuous fuck scuff. And to elaborate, my position has never been "Vince is right." Simply "you're an idiot." My DEFAULT reaction was "it's all bullshit." Read back. You'll notice I didn't say "read back and delete your post" because I'm not quite the smug piece of shit you are. Not that that has much to do with anything, but any excuse to call you out on that, right? Done reading back? You'll notice that I assumed it was all BS. Why? Because I remember LAST time WWE (Then WWF) did a "give away a fuck ton of money" thing that ended up being BS with no money given out. My default position on EVERYTHING is that it is 100% bullshit, because I'm paranoid and untrusting. Hell, get me started on the long con that is American Idol some time if you want some conspiracy rants. But I didn't claim to have "sources" and act like I knew the intricate details of what the scam was, which is why I haven't come off like I've got shit for brains this entire thread like some people that I'm talking to right now. I didn't say "my sources who I will not list say he's giving money to WWE employees" or some shit. I didn't say "it's a scam because of this this and this" and I didn't say "I won't believe it until someone spends his winnings exactly how I say." Because WHO CARES whether or not you or I or anybody who didn't enter believes it? Believe it or don't, nobody really cares, just don't act like you're hot shit because you don't.
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Post by Charles Windsor on Jun 20, 2008 1:32:37 GMT -5
i think someone already said it...
...but WHO CARES?
and also, im sick of this crap.
its locked
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